43 thoughts on “Protests Against Dominican Republic Court Ruling”
Guy Francois
J’ai vecu 8 ans en Republique Dominicaine, les Dominicains traitent les haitiens comme des chiens, comme le diable. un noir qui arrive en Republique Dominicaine pour eux autres t’es un maldito haitiano!
C un acte raciste qui ne mérite pas de passer sous silence aucun respect pour l’humanité. Que dirais le président dominicain si les autres pays décide de les refouler chez eux (tous les dominicais)en guise de représsaille. Quel honte pour ce pays.
I never have any interest to visit Dominican Republic because i know how they have been treated my people for numerous years especially in the batey. I’ve met some very good dominican citizens living in Haiti and in the US, but their government is up to no good. We as people of Haiti need to stand up together once and for all to stop that hatred. A lot of wealthy haitians have properties in DR and they treat them like god over there, but why can’t the poor haitians get some respect as well. Is it about money, interest or human dignity?
My grand mother was born in 1917 in sto domingo, when she was 20yrs old or so in 1937 she gave birth to my mother in sto domingo. My great grand mother took escape on mules back to haiti to avoid death, over 30 000 dominican haitians did not make it. My family told us the story over, over, over and over again. Never again……..
This is an utter lie. The affected are about 13,000 and the President already announced they will be taken care of. So….. this smear campaign is beyond moronic!
Or what about the 300,000 kids that are restaveks or slaves in Haiti, why don’t you guys make a protest about that? Why protesting against the Dominican Republic when NO OTHER country has helped Haiti more than the Dominicans.
160 countries around the World do not give the nationality to the sons And day daughters of illegal immigrants. The Dominican constitution since 1929 has established that a person get the Dominican nationality when by the time he/she was born the parents were legal residents. Therefore if your parents are illegal residents you will have the nationality of your parents instead of the Dominican nationality.
Haiti and international groups are trying to solve part of Haiti’s problem by forcing the Dominican goverment to change their laws so that the Dominican Republic end up recognizing as Dominicans illegal immigrants.
It’s funny that Canada and probably the people
That are in these pictures have done little to solve Haiti’s issue or have shown a real concerned about the situation of Haiti, that after millions of dollars given to charities and other institutions, Haiti chaos and poverty hasn’t changed at all, cause most of the money end up in mafias. Is this was an honest campaign, they would have been protesting against that instead of protesting against another country that legally has all the rights to say or establish that an illegal immigrant is not Dominican. 160 other countries have the same position as ours but it seems that only the Dominican Republic is the “evil” one. Come on! Be honest or is this group another one of those that are fed with money from the Usaid and that, without this kind of silly public protest, wouldn’t be able to get anybody to support them with money?
People should read before issuing judgements, in no country whatsoever it is mandatory to give citizenship to whom comes in illegally, nor their children, people read the law before going out and being ridiculous
Toutes les personnes qui écrivent ici sont d’une origine haïtienne et par cela ils émettent ces opinions, mais en réalité cela que nous voyons dans ces images est totalement faux, ils veulent seulement discréditer la République Dominicaine.
C’est une situation exécrable. Nul n’est censé avoir à subir un tel traitement.D’autre en plus que ces deux pays partagent la même frontière ils ont une histoire commune.Faut que cela cesse.
Si nous sommes si mauvais, pourquoi veulent-ils venir dans notre pays? rester dans votre paradis d’Haïti, vous pouvez être sûr que nous n’avons pas besoin.
el descredito a la republica dominicana es increible!!pero cuando necesitan hospitales y escuelas y trabajo entonces no se quejan.en 1937 quizas Trujillo acabo con muchos haitianos que estaban pasandose por la frontera pero no acabo ni la mitad de los que mataron la familia Duvalier y sus guardias en esa misma epoca de dictadura en los dos paises…una pena que no sepan nada de la historia…su misma gente acabando con ellos…robandose lo que le dan otros paises….que hacen con todo el dinero que dan particulares y gobiernos? en los bolsillos de su misma gente…como esta sucediendo en la republica dominicana.
Haitianos….no podemos dar lo que nosotros tampoco tenemos sin embargo…lo hacemos.
ils bravent le froid pour atirer l’attention sur le nazisme dominicain. il faut aller plus loin, reduire la dependance economique haitienne de la RD. a court terme, trouvez des produits pas cher dans d’autres pays pour encourager les petits marchands qui vendent des produits de mauvaise qualite en provenance de la RD pour trouver mieux pour faire en Haiti. le fait que Haiti peut produire pour augmenter sa production agricole et exporter vers le venezuela, la main d’oeuvre agricole qualifiee qui fait prosperer les fermes agricoles de la RD devrait etre rapatriee pour trouver de meilleures conditions de travail dans notre pays. donc, votre argent a une bataille patriotique pour venger cette insulte de nos voisins. la diaspora est sollicitee une fois de plus pour s’engager autrement
What the constitution of Dominican Republic says MUST be respected. There is not genocide or denationalization THA’S A LIE!!!! , that’s manipulation. I’m sorry but you can talk to withdraw legality of what has never been legal or denationalization of what has never been national.
I dont understand why if we treat you so bad you are still here. I guess you are better in your own country. So stay there. You are very ungrateful people, that is why the world has abandoned you. We feel sorry for you, you have become a netion of beggars and you blame everybody for your situation. Get up against your poiltitians and in front of the extremely rich people that owns everything in haiti and be a better country. Why so much hate? If you keep this i foresee a confrontation in the near future. And we are not afraid of you. That is what you want? You want blood ? stop it. You live abroad in a safe place. If there is a war you are not going to be here. You are not going to die. Stop this. Why are you so interested in becoming Dominicans if we are so bad ? The only one denying nationality in this matter is you, your constitution says that all children born from haitian parents are haitians no matter where they are born. So this is your people.
Do you think that spreading hate is a solution? i dont think so. Be sure of one thing, we dont want a war, we are a epaceful nation, but if in the end all this that you are doing leads to a confrontation you will get it.
A MI ME GUSTARIA SABER,DE LOS QUE HOY PROTESTAN POR LA SENTENCIA DEL TRIBUNAL CONSTITUCIONAL DE LA REPUBLICA DOMINICANA, QUIENES DE ELLOS HAN APORTADO ALGO A LA VECINA NACION DE HAITY? LA REPUBLICA DOMINICANA HA INVERTIDO CIENTOS DE MILLONES DE PESOS EN LA RECONSTRUCCION DE HAITY LUEGO DEL TERREMOTO. HA SIDO EL PAIS QUE MAS HA APORTADO, SIN CONTABILIZAR LA CARGA ECONOMICA QUE LOS MAS DE 2 MILLONES DE ILEGALES HAITIANOS REPRESENTAN EN GASTOS PARA LA ECONOMIA DOMINICANA, EN HOSPITALES, ESCUELAS, MEDICINAS, ALIMENTOS. ES UN ABUSO CALIFICAR A REPUBLICA DOMINICANA COMO RACISTA, CUANDO HA SIDO EL PRINCIPAL ALIADO DE HAITY EN TODA LA HISTORIA REPUBLICANA DE LAS DOS NACIONES. ABUSADORES, PROTESTANDO EN CONTRA DEL PAIS QUE MAS TE HA DADO LA MANO.
Il faut toucher la corde sensible de l’économie pour faire réagir…
Allons y donc (dans les moyens de pression) en n’y allant pas(en république Dominicaine)
Sabes ellos más de lo que se lee o ve en las noticias?
Cuando el que viva en el extranjero quiera opinar
Que venga a la República a conocer nuestra historia.
La realidad désde todos los puntos de vista.
the funny thing about this is that Haitians are asking for something that They as nation deny to other illegals people in their country. Read this article an convince your self.
according to Haiti constitution if you are illegal and have a baby in Haiti, you are not granted Haitian nationality. Then my point is If Haitian can write their laws so can Dominicans.
It’s funny how you haitians talk shit about my country, but enjoy being there by just having children you can’t raise, by asking money on the street, being criminals, or just doing nothing productive or good. Haitians were killed by dominicans in 1937? How sweet, what about the abuses your goverment did between 1822-1844 and also your attempts to convert the island into your country again after our independence? Stop acting like a victim because you haitians know that my country is the one that have helped you the most. Seems like you forgot who was the first and last country to help you when they earthquake hit Haiti. And please, don’t say we threat you bad, because you are the ones who do not like us, you just want to come illegaly to my country to do bad things, so stop acting like we are the bad.
Read, inform yourselves before doing a protest. ANY immigrant wether Haitian or not, have the same laws. Around 160 countries have the same rules do to their limited size. Countries are acting like ignorants such as Canada, having no interest in respecting the dominican constitution. The Dominican Republic as a sovereign country has made a decision for the benefit of their citizens. The 30,000 haitians killed was a terrible masacre commited by one of the most hated dictators of all times named Rafael Trujillo, which was assasinated in 1961 by dominicanas tired of the tiran. Ever since we searched for a true democracy, there’s never been an atrocity of that type. There actually exists rascisim in part of the dominicans, but also the haitians dislike dominicans and are racist in their own way. The decision was already implemented, any illegal immigrant who decides to have an child in the dominican territory has no right of demanding the child’s dominican documents. For my part I know its hard to understand for people who live in countries who relly on immigrants due to their territory, and haven’t lived in a small island but its vital for them to aknowledge the necesity for that law in the Dominican Republic.
Let me tell you something: I have hatians friends that i respect a lot ( they deserve it).But all of this again Dominican Republic seems to me a REAL SABOTAGE.Let me explain ( without emotions, just logic):
1-The new migration sentence ( or law ) ist not just for Haitians, is for all FOREIGNERS around the world that are in Dominican Republic!
2-It is of public knowledge that some haitians commite people that was in the United Nations, one of then used a false identity.
3-This INTERNATIONAL CAMPAIGN AGAINST DOMINICAN REPUBLIC IS VERY SUSPICIOUS! IT IS LIKE SOME “ENTITIES” OUTSIDE HAVE A PLAN TO CAUSE SOMETHING IN DOMINICAN REPUBLIC.LET ME TELL YOU THAT SOME PEOPLE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC KNOW ABOUT THAT DRACONIAN SITUATION.
And WHY you dont do this BOYCOTT FOR THE HAITI GOVERMENTS, WHERE THE HUMAN RIGHTS IS INEXISTENCE??? Anyone of you have, apparently, dont know NOTHING about the Haiti situation inside the country ( i think you do).You are acting LIKE A TOOL of some Draconian “ORGANIZATIONS” with DRACONIAN INTENTIONS.There are a lot of Dominicans that know WHAT ARE YOU DOING, AND KNOW WHAT IS BEHIND OF ALL OF THIS.
Why is it that haitians put all this effort against the Dominican Republic but they dont try in anyway to fix the problem im their country!!. Martelly spends millions of dollars in dumb stuff instead of rebuilding his country. Stop boycotting and begging enough is enough you people are the first independet country of America why do you need to keep feeding of other countries and blamming other people for your demies. Prove the world that you can stand on your own two feet and stop shaming yourselfs .
Je suis prèt a participer dans toutes bonnes initiatives pareil. Nous les Haitiens, n’allons pas les genocider comme ils font de nos compatriotes la bas, mais on va leur repondre pacifiquement et intellectuelement.
INITIATIVES payés ceux qui sont collants, qui interfèrent aussi avec notre souveraineté. Nous avons été simpre solidarité avec notre pays frère et n’est maintenant pas exception, car il n’est pas d’expulser toute personne et ce légaliser leur statut. Aucune campagne PLUS SALE ET INJUSTE!
Nice try, but they’re all lies. First no citizenship is being taken away. You can’t take away something that didn’t exist. That 1937 “massacre” you keep talking about never happened. The people that were trying to remove the dominican dictator saw what was happening in Europe and made that up because they wanted an international military invasion to remove Trujillo. When you’re going to accuse someone of genocide, have some evidence, but of course can’t because there is none.
La République dominicaine est (1844 ) le joug haïtien de la domination haïtienne domino que depuis 22 ans l’île . Avec l’indépendance , nous prenons un coup de machette à la partie espagnole d’Haïti , quand haitinaos fuyant la retraite assassinant des milliers de Dominicains à Moca et Santiago de los Caballeros , les Haïtiens , les soldats vils , a pris les enfants et a jeté l’air , et vivaient avec leurs baïonnettes . Ils ont brûlé tant de Santiago et de Moca . Depuis, tout a été jaloux de Haïtiens qui ne peuvent pas trouver le chemin de la paix et de la prospérité , qui ne puedar la budu . Personne ne sait si peut-être un autre tremblement de terre , encore et encore , nous devons aller courir à leur secours . Les Haïtiens ne voit pas le progrès resiten dominicaine . Américains illégaux nés en République dominicaine sont nortemaricanos citoyens et doivent faire leur déclaration de naissance de son consulat , comme le français et l’anglais qui ont des enfants illégaux en République dominicaine , ont à faire leur déclaration de naissance dans leur consulat respectif , aucune discrimination , à toute nation , ainsi établi la Constitution de cette république souveraine . Dieu , le pays et la liberté . Et de connaître la vérité et la vérité vous rendra libres (Jean 3:16 ) .
The Dominican Republic is ( 1844 ) the Haitian yoke of Haitian domination domino that for 22 years the island. With independence we take a machete to the Spanish part Haitian , when fleeing haitinaos retired murdered thousands of Dominicans in Moca and Santiago de los Caballeros , Haitians , vile soldiers, took the kids and threw the air, and lived with their bayonets. They burned both Santiago and Moca . Since then everything has been envious of Haitians who can not find the path of peace and prosperity , which not puedar the budu . Nobody knows if perhaps another earthquake again , and again we have to go running to their aid . Haitians do not see the Dominican resiten progress. Illegal Americans born in the Dominican Republic are nortemaricanos citizens and have to make their declaration of birth in his consulate , like the English and French who have illegal children in the Dominican Republic, have to make their declaration of birth in their respective consulate , no discrimination , to any nation , so established the Constitution of this sovereign Republic. God, Country and Freedom . And know the truth and the truth shall make you free (John 3:16).
The Dominican Republic is a country that follows the rule of law. The constitution of 1929, concerning nationality is clear. Dominicans follow a conditional jus soli. Nationality is adquired if you are born in the Dominican Republic, SUBJECT TO, at least one of the parents being a Dominican citizen or legal resident, in the county at the time of birth. This has been so since 1929, and it has simply been RATIFIED on all other Dominican constitutions since, including 2010’s constitution. There is no difference.
Therefore, you are Dominican, only (( IF )), at least one parent is Dominican or is a legal resident.
On the other hand, Haiti follows jus sanguinis, where nationality is based on the person blood ties.
Meaning, it does not matter where you are born, you are still Haitian if at least one parent is a Haitian National.
These positions were made aware, and both countries agree upon it,
during the peace talks of 1938 in Washington D.C., between the parties.
If a Haitian crosses the border illegally, and has offspring in the Dominican Republic,
they are not Dominicans, by the rule of law. Neither are the grand children of the illegal perpetrators.
Furthermore, they are Haitians nationals, for Haitian constitution is based on jus sanguinis.
But, the Haitian government turns a blind eye, and makes the allegation that they are not Haitians,
because they cannot prove to be of Haitian ancestry.
How are Haitians and their offspring going to prove their origins, if the Haitian government did not provide their parents with the a birth certificate in Haiti ? The simplest of legal documentation.
Some say that many Haitian offspring got Dominican documents, and were later taken from them. According to responsible sources, they got Dominican documents fraudulently, by bribing a government official, or using birth certificate of a dead Dominican, and so on. Nevertheless, they cannot be taken away what they never had. They were never Dominican citizens, in the first place, even if they were given Dominican documents by error. Furthermore they are not stateless, because they are Haitians by jus sanguinis. Haitian offspring need to get documents at the Haitian institutions. They are not Dominicans.
Most Haitians can never get Dominican legal residency, because the Haitian government does not provide the simplest of documents for its citizens. Haitians by the millions, don’t have a birth certificate, nor a personal Identification. Most Haitians have no legal status, they simply don’t legally exist within Haiti, nor do they legally exist outside of Haiti when they migrate.
The Haitian government is the one creating this dilemma, for their own people, and neighboring countries, according to some it is used for “social stratification control”, and what some social scientist call, “social dumping”.
This Haitian dilemma is not exclusive of the Dominican Republic.
There are also over 50, 000 Haitians offspring in the Bahamas with the same situation.
Also, in the UK commonwealth of Turks and Caicos.
There are about 300,000 in the same situation even in Cuba.
The Dominican Republic is being unjustly accused, and singled out. But why ?
The constitutional rule of 1929, is affecting the offspring of people from 102 nationalities that live in the Dominican Republic and the government is trying to clear the situation out. Yet, only Haitians are protesting. Again, why ?
There is more than a million illegal Haitians living and roaming freely, in the Dominican Republic.Equal to more than 10% of the population. In small poor country.
The Dominican government is spending 125 million a year,
on free Health Care and education for Haitians, living in the Dominican Republic.
Really outrageous for such a poor and small country.
In the USA there is an estimate of 11 million illegals, and there is constant outcry,
and constant debate about this about this in congress.
The USA a vast nation with a huge territory and resources.
Imagine if the USA had 31 million illegals, about 10% of US population roaming around illegally.
That would certainly turn to more than an outcry.
Why then is the Dominican Republic, being used as the escape goat ??
Many international scholars, scientists, politicians, and intellectuals,
suspect that there is a conspiracy against the Dominican Republic,
orchestrated by of the US, Canada, UK and France, with the macabre intention of a fusion in the island, and Haitian officials are being used as the instruments.
However the differences in language, culture, race, religion, and history, are enormous.
Something practically impossible due to the abysmal differences, and Dominicans abhor the fusion idea.
Many, take their suspicion even further,
and speculate that the fusion idea has to do with,
extreme Oil reserves and Gold deposits on both sides of the island.
Further investigations should be made on the part of sincere, unbiased, inquiring minds !
I guess it’s not common knowledge that some haitian were “welcomed” in DR to do manual labour a couple of generations back and never got papers… But now, they want to send them back with nothing…
I dont have problem whit haytianos, but not body its here obligatory, and dominican have rules if haytianos dont like there are free for to go to to hayti… Go!
J’ai vecu 8 ans en Republique Dominicaine, les Dominicains traitent les haitiens comme des chiens, comme le diable. un noir qui arrive en Republique Dominicaine pour eux autres t’es un maldito haitiano!
Très bonne initiative…. Il faut commencer en quelque part… Si vous avez besoin d’aide je suis disponible après 16:00 du lundi au vendredi ….
Bravo pour cette initiative, ca prend du cran et c’est ce qui faut pour faire une différence.
They have to treat human being like human not like garbage. They have to treat them with respect.
C un acte raciste qui ne mérite pas de passer sous silence aucun respect pour l’humanité. Que dirais le président dominicain si les autres pays décide de les refouler chez eux (tous les dominicais)en guise de représsaille. Quel honte pour ce pays.
I never have any interest to visit Dominican Republic because i know how they have been treated my people for numerous years especially in the batey. I’ve met some very good dominican citizens living in Haiti and in the US, but their government is up to no good. We as people of Haiti need to stand up together once and for all to stop that hatred. A lot of wealthy haitians have properties in DR and they treat them like god over there, but why can’t the poor haitians get some respect as well. Is it about money, interest or human dignity?
My grand mother was born in 1917 in sto domingo, when she was 20yrs old or so in 1937 she gave birth to my mother in sto domingo. My great grand mother took escape on mules back to haiti to avoid death, over 30 000 dominican haitians did not make it. My family told us the story over, over, over and over again. Never again……..
Inhumain
This is an utter lie. The affected are about 13,000 and the President already announced they will be taken care of. So….. this smear campaign is beyond moronic!
I bet that non of you protested over this, either:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/haiti-humanitarian-aid-for-earthquake-victims-used-to-build-five-star-hotels
Or what about the 300,000 kids that are restaveks or slaves in Haiti, why don’t you guys make a protest about that? Why protesting against the Dominican Republic when NO OTHER country has helped Haiti more than the Dominicans.
What are you guys doing for the 300,000 slaved children (RESTAVEKS) in Haiti? Hypocrites!!! Boycott Haiti HIPOCRITAS! http://www.restavekfreedom.org/
160 countries around the World do not give the nationality to the sons And day daughters of illegal immigrants. The Dominican constitution since 1929 has established that a person get the Dominican nationality when by the time he/she was born the parents were legal residents. Therefore if your parents are illegal residents you will have the nationality of your parents instead of the Dominican nationality.
Haiti and international groups are trying to solve part of Haiti’s problem by forcing the Dominican goverment to change their laws so that the Dominican Republic end up recognizing as Dominicans illegal immigrants.
It’s funny that Canada and probably the people
That are in these pictures have done little to solve Haiti’s issue or have shown a real concerned about the situation of Haiti, that after millions of dollars given to charities and other institutions, Haiti chaos and poverty hasn’t changed at all, cause most of the money end up in mafias. Is this was an honest campaign, they would have been protesting against that instead of protesting against another country that legally has all the rights to say or establish that an illegal immigrant is not Dominican. 160 other countries have the same position as ours but it seems that only the Dominican Republic is the “evil” one. Come on! Be honest or is this group another one of those that are fed with money from the Usaid and that, without this kind of silly public protest, wouldn’t be able to get anybody to support them with money?
People should read before issuing judgements, in no country whatsoever it is mandatory to give citizenship to whom comes in illegally, nor their children, people read the law before going out and being ridiculous
Toutes les personnes qui écrivent ici sont d’une origine haïtienne et par cela ils émettent ces opinions, mais en réalité cela que nous voyons dans ces images est totalement faux, ils veulent seulement discréditer la République Dominicaine.
C’est une situation exécrable. Nul n’est censé avoir à subir un tel traitement.D’autre en plus que ces deux pays partagent la même frontière ils ont une histoire commune.Faut que cela cesse.
Si nous sommes si mauvais, pourquoi veulent-ils venir dans notre pays? rester dans votre paradis d’Haïti, vous pouvez être sûr que nous n’avons pas besoin.
el descredito a la republica dominicana es increible!!pero cuando necesitan hospitales y escuelas y trabajo entonces no se quejan.en 1937 quizas Trujillo acabo con muchos haitianos que estaban pasandose por la frontera pero no acabo ni la mitad de los que mataron la familia Duvalier y sus guardias en esa misma epoca de dictadura en los dos paises…una pena que no sepan nada de la historia…su misma gente acabando con ellos…robandose lo que le dan otros paises….que hacen con todo el dinero que dan particulares y gobiernos? en los bolsillos de su misma gente…como esta sucediendo en la republica dominicana.
Haitianos….no podemos dar lo que nosotros tampoco tenemos sin embargo…lo hacemos.
ils bravent le froid pour atirer l’attention sur le nazisme dominicain. il faut aller plus loin, reduire la dependance economique haitienne de la RD. a court terme, trouvez des produits pas cher dans d’autres pays pour encourager les petits marchands qui vendent des produits de mauvaise qualite en provenance de la RD pour trouver mieux pour faire en Haiti. le fait que Haiti peut produire pour augmenter sa production agricole et exporter vers le venezuela, la main d’oeuvre agricole qualifiee qui fait prosperer les fermes agricoles de la RD devrait etre rapatriee pour trouver de meilleures conditions de travail dans notre pays. donc, votre argent a une bataille patriotique pour venger cette insulte de nos voisins. la diaspora est sollicitee une fois de plus pour s’engager autrement
What the constitution of Dominican Republic says MUST be respected. There is not genocide or denationalization THA’S A LIE!!!! , that’s manipulation. I’m sorry but you can talk to withdraw legality of what has never been legal or denationalization of what has never been national.
I dont understand why if we treat you so bad you are still here. I guess you are better in your own country. So stay there. You are very ungrateful people, that is why the world has abandoned you. We feel sorry for you, you have become a netion of beggars and you blame everybody for your situation. Get up against your poiltitians and in front of the extremely rich people that owns everything in haiti and be a better country. Why so much hate? If you keep this i foresee a confrontation in the near future. And we are not afraid of you. That is what you want? You want blood ? stop it. You live abroad in a safe place. If there is a war you are not going to be here. You are not going to die. Stop this. Why are you so interested in becoming Dominicans if we are so bad ? The only one denying nationality in this matter is you, your constitution says that all children born from haitian parents are haitians no matter where they are born. So this is your people.
Do you think that spreading hate is a solution? i dont think so. Be sure of one thing, we dont want a war, we are a epaceful nation, but if in the end all this that you are doing leads to a confrontation you will get it.
HOLA,
A MI ME GUSTARIA SABER,DE LOS QUE HOY PROTESTAN POR LA SENTENCIA DEL TRIBUNAL CONSTITUCIONAL DE LA REPUBLICA DOMINICANA, QUIENES DE ELLOS HAN APORTADO ALGO A LA VECINA NACION DE HAITY? LA REPUBLICA DOMINICANA HA INVERTIDO CIENTOS DE MILLONES DE PESOS EN LA RECONSTRUCCION DE HAITY LUEGO DEL TERREMOTO. HA SIDO EL PAIS QUE MAS HA APORTADO, SIN CONTABILIZAR LA CARGA ECONOMICA QUE LOS MAS DE 2 MILLONES DE ILEGALES HAITIANOS REPRESENTAN EN GASTOS PARA LA ECONOMIA DOMINICANA, EN HOSPITALES, ESCUELAS, MEDICINAS, ALIMENTOS. ES UN ABUSO CALIFICAR A REPUBLICA DOMINICANA COMO RACISTA, CUANDO HA SIDO EL PRINCIPAL ALIADO DE HAITY EN TODA LA HISTORIA REPUBLICANA DE LAS DOS NACIONES. ABUSADORES, PROTESTANDO EN CONTRA DEL PAIS QUE MAS TE HA DADO LA MANO.
Si Francia explotó Haiti por décadas, por qué no les da Francia nacionalidad Francesa a todos los haitianos?
Il faut toucher la corde sensible de l’économie pour faire réagir…
Allons y donc (dans les moyens de pression) en n’y allant pas(en république Dominicaine)
Sabes ellos más de lo que se lee o ve en las noticias?
Cuando el que viva en el extranjero quiera opinar
Que venga a la República a conocer nuestra historia.
La realidad désde todos los puntos de vista.
the funny thing about this is that Haitians are asking for something that They as nation deny to other illegals people in their country. Read this article an convince your self.
http://www.listin.com.do/puntos-de-vista/2013/12/8/302723/Haiti-exige-lo-que-no-da
according to Haiti constitution if you are illegal and have a baby in Haiti, you are not granted Haitian nationality. Then my point is If Haitian can write their laws so can Dominicans.
Ya que estan recordando lo de 1937, yo tengo el placer de recordarles esta… La matanza de Moca!
El degüello de los 40 niños en el altar de la iglesia de Moca y la conducción como prisioneros hacia Haití de los 748 niños y niñas de Santiago.
http://onorioster.blogspot.com/2012/01/el-carnicero-conocido-como-henri.html
If my Dominican wife and I (Also Dominican) have a child in haiti, is that child haitian or Dominican?
Los haitianos quieren recorrer el mundo y que se les acoja sin tapujos, apelando a discrimincion racial. Han hecho de eso un negocio.
Espero que en canada todos ustedes tengan sus documentaciones al dia, por que si no van para afuera tambien.
http://noticialibre.com/2013/12/12/canada-eliminara-derecho-automatico-de-ciudadania-a-ninos-nacidos-en-el-pais/
It’s funny how you haitians talk shit about my country, but enjoy being there by just having children you can’t raise, by asking money on the street, being criminals, or just doing nothing productive or good. Haitians were killed by dominicans in 1937? How sweet, what about the abuses your goverment did between 1822-1844 and also your attempts to convert the island into your country again after our independence? Stop acting like a victim because you haitians know that my country is the one that have helped you the most. Seems like you forgot who was the first and last country to help you when they earthquake hit Haiti. And please, don’t say we threat you bad, because you are the ones who do not like us, you just want to come illegaly to my country to do bad things, so stop acting like we are the bad.
Read, inform yourselves before doing a protest. ANY immigrant wether Haitian or not, have the same laws. Around 160 countries have the same rules do to their limited size. Countries are acting like ignorants such as Canada, having no interest in respecting the dominican constitution. The Dominican Republic as a sovereign country has made a decision for the benefit of their citizens. The 30,000 haitians killed was a terrible masacre commited by one of the most hated dictators of all times named Rafael Trujillo, which was assasinated in 1961 by dominicanas tired of the tiran. Ever since we searched for a true democracy, there’s never been an atrocity of that type. There actually exists rascisim in part of the dominicans, but also the haitians dislike dominicans and are racist in their own way. The decision was already implemented, any illegal immigrant who decides to have an child in the dominican territory has no right of demanding the child’s dominican documents. For my part I know its hard to understand for people who live in countries who relly on immigrants due to their territory, and haven’t lived in a small island but its vital for them to aknowledge the necesity for that law in the Dominican Republic.
Let me tell you something: I have hatians friends that i respect a lot ( they deserve it).But all of this again Dominican Republic seems to me a REAL SABOTAGE.Let me explain ( without emotions, just logic):
1-The new migration sentence ( or law ) ist not just for Haitians, is for all FOREIGNERS around the world that are in Dominican Republic!
2-It is of public knowledge that some haitians commite people that was in the United Nations, one of then used a false identity.
3-This INTERNATIONAL CAMPAIGN AGAINST DOMINICAN REPUBLIC IS VERY SUSPICIOUS! IT IS LIKE SOME “ENTITIES” OUTSIDE HAVE A PLAN TO CAUSE SOMETHING IN DOMINICAN REPUBLIC.LET ME TELL YOU THAT SOME PEOPLE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC KNOW ABOUT THAT DRACONIAN SITUATION.
And WHY you dont do this BOYCOTT FOR THE HAITI GOVERMENTS, WHERE THE HUMAN RIGHTS IS INEXISTENCE??? Anyone of you have, apparently, dont know NOTHING about the Haiti situation inside the country ( i think you do).You are acting LIKE A TOOL of some Draconian “ORGANIZATIONS” with DRACONIAN INTENTIONS.There are a lot of Dominicans that know WHAT ARE YOU DOING, AND KNOW WHAT IS BEHIND OF ALL OF THIS.
Why is it that haitians put all this effort against the Dominican Republic but they dont try in anyway to fix the problem im their country!!. Martelly spends millions of dollars in dumb stuff instead of rebuilding his country. Stop boycotting and begging enough is enough you people are the first independet country of America why do you need to keep feeding of other countries and blamming other people for your demies. Prove the world that you can stand on your own two feet and stop shaming yourselfs .
Je suis prèt a participer dans toutes bonnes initiatives pareil. Nous les Haitiens, n’allons pas les genocider comme ils font de nos compatriotes la bas, mais on va leur repondre pacifiquement et intellectuelement.
INITIATIVES payés ceux qui sont collants, qui interfèrent aussi avec notre souveraineté. Nous avons été simpre solidarité avec notre pays frère et n’est maintenant pas exception, car il n’est pas d’expulser toute personne et ce légaliser leur statut. Aucune campagne PLUS SALE ET INJUSTE!
Nice try, but they’re all lies. First no citizenship is being taken away. You can’t take away something that didn’t exist. That 1937 “massacre” you keep talking about never happened. The people that were trying to remove the dominican dictator saw what was happening in Europe and made that up because they wanted an international military invasion to remove Trujillo. When you’re going to accuse someone of genocide, have some evidence, but of course can’t because there is none.
http://esonosehacerd.blogspot.com/ Dominican Economist Miguel Ceara Hatton’s Statement to the Inter-American Human Rights Commission December 2013
La République dominicaine est (1844 ) le joug haïtien de la domination haïtienne domino que depuis 22 ans l’île . Avec l’indépendance , nous prenons un coup de machette à la partie espagnole d’Haïti , quand haitinaos fuyant la retraite assassinant des milliers de Dominicains à Moca et Santiago de los Caballeros , les Haïtiens , les soldats vils , a pris les enfants et a jeté l’air , et vivaient avec leurs baïonnettes . Ils ont brûlé tant de Santiago et de Moca . Depuis, tout a été jaloux de Haïtiens qui ne peuvent pas trouver le chemin de la paix et de la prospérité , qui ne puedar la budu . Personne ne sait si peut-être un autre tremblement de terre , encore et encore , nous devons aller courir à leur secours . Les Haïtiens ne voit pas le progrès resiten dominicaine . Américains illégaux nés en République dominicaine sont nortemaricanos citoyens et doivent faire leur déclaration de naissance de son consulat , comme le français et l’anglais qui ont des enfants illégaux en République dominicaine , ont à faire leur déclaration de naissance dans leur consulat respectif , aucune discrimination , à toute nation , ainsi établi la Constitution de cette république souveraine . Dieu , le pays et la liberté . Et de connaître la vérité et la vérité vous rendra libres (Jean 3:16 ) .
The Dominican Republic is ( 1844 ) the Haitian yoke of Haitian domination domino that for 22 years the island. With independence we take a machete to the Spanish part Haitian , when fleeing haitinaos retired murdered thousands of Dominicans in Moca and Santiago de los Caballeros , Haitians , vile soldiers, took the kids and threw the air, and lived with their bayonets. They burned both Santiago and Moca . Since then everything has been envious of Haitians who can not find the path of peace and prosperity , which not puedar the budu . Nobody knows if perhaps another earthquake again , and again we have to go running to their aid . Haitians do not see the Dominican resiten progress. Illegal Americans born in the Dominican Republic are nortemaricanos citizens and have to make their declaration of birth in his consulate , like the English and French who have illegal children in the Dominican Republic, have to make their declaration of birth in their respective consulate , no discrimination , to any nation , so established the Constitution of this sovereign Republic. God, Country and Freedom . And know the truth and the truth shall make you free (John 3:16).
The Dominican Republic is a country that follows the rule of law. The constitution of 1929, concerning nationality is clear. Dominicans follow a conditional jus soli. Nationality is adquired if you are born in the Dominican Republic, SUBJECT TO, at least one of the parents being a Dominican citizen or legal resident, in the county at the time of birth. This has been so since 1929, and it has simply been RATIFIED on all other Dominican constitutions since, including 2010’s constitution. There is no difference.
Therefore, you are Dominican, only (( IF )), at least one parent is Dominican or is a legal resident.
On the other hand, Haiti follows jus sanguinis, where nationality is based on the person blood ties.
Meaning, it does not matter where you are born, you are still Haitian if at least one parent is a Haitian National.
These positions were made aware, and both countries agree upon it,
during the peace talks of 1938 in Washington D.C., between the parties.
If a Haitian crosses the border illegally, and has offspring in the Dominican Republic,
they are not Dominicans, by the rule of law. Neither are the grand children of the illegal perpetrators.
Furthermore, they are Haitians nationals, for Haitian constitution is based on jus sanguinis.
But, the Haitian government turns a blind eye, and makes the allegation that they are not Haitians,
because they cannot prove to be of Haitian ancestry.
How are Haitians and their offspring going to prove their origins, if the Haitian government did not provide their parents with the a birth certificate in Haiti ? The simplest of legal documentation.
Some say that many Haitian offspring got Dominican documents, and were later taken from them. According to responsible sources, they got Dominican documents fraudulently, by bribing a government official, or using birth certificate of a dead Dominican, and so on. Nevertheless, they cannot be taken away what they never had. They were never Dominican citizens, in the first place, even if they were given Dominican documents by error. Furthermore they are not stateless, because they are Haitians by jus sanguinis. Haitian offspring need to get documents at the Haitian institutions. They are not Dominicans.
Most Haitians can never get Dominican legal residency, because the Haitian government does not provide the simplest of documents for its citizens. Haitians by the millions, don’t have a birth certificate, nor a personal Identification. Most Haitians have no legal status, they simply don’t legally exist within Haiti, nor do they legally exist outside of Haiti when they migrate.
The Haitian government is the one creating this dilemma, for their own people, and neighboring countries, according to some it is used for “social stratification control”, and what some social scientist call, “social dumping”.
This Haitian dilemma is not exclusive of the Dominican Republic.
There are also over 50, 000 Haitians offspring in the Bahamas with the same situation.
Also, in the UK commonwealth of Turks and Caicos.
There are about 300,000 in the same situation even in Cuba.
The Dominican Republic is being unjustly accused, and singled out. But why ?
The constitutional rule of 1929, is affecting the offspring of people from 102 nationalities that live in the Dominican Republic and the government is trying to clear the situation out. Yet, only Haitians are protesting. Again, why ?
There is more than a million illegal Haitians living and roaming freely, in the Dominican Republic.Equal to more than 10% of the population. In small poor country.
The Dominican government is spending 125 million a year,
on free Health Care and education for Haitians, living in the Dominican Republic.
Really outrageous for such a poor and small country.
In the USA there is an estimate of 11 million illegals, and there is constant outcry,
and constant debate about this about this in congress.
The USA a vast nation with a huge territory and resources.
Imagine if the USA had 31 million illegals, about 10% of US population roaming around illegally.
That would certainly turn to more than an outcry.
Why then is the Dominican Republic, being used as the escape goat ??
Many international scholars, scientists, politicians, and intellectuals,
suspect that there is a conspiracy against the Dominican Republic,
orchestrated by of the US, Canada, UK and France, with the macabre intention of a fusion in the island, and Haitian officials are being used as the instruments.
However the differences in language, culture, race, religion, and history, are enormous.
Something practically impossible due to the abysmal differences, and Dominicans abhor the fusion idea.
Many, take their suspicion even further,
and speculate that the fusion idea has to do with,
extreme Oil reserves and Gold deposits on both sides of the island.
Further investigations should be made on the part of sincere, unbiased, inquiring minds !
I guess it’s not common knowledge that some haitian were “welcomed” in DR to do manual labour a couple of generations back and never got papers… But now, they want to send them back with nothing…
I dont have problem whit haytianos, but not body its here obligatory, and dominican have rules if haytianos dont like there are free for to go to to hayti… Go!
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